# Feature suggestion: manual fingerprint verification / SecureJoin alternative for desktop users **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Proposal\ **Tags:** security, desktop\ **Created:** [October 1, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.delta.chat/t/feature-suggestion-manual-fingerprint-verification-securejoin-alternative-for-desktop-users/3276 "2024-10-01T20:13:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 4
**Author:** ![r10s](https://forum.delta.chat/user_avatar/forum.delta.chat/r10s/32/1513_2.png) [@r10s](https://forum.delta.chat/u/r10s)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 3:38pm UTC](https://forum.delta.chat/t/feature-suggestion-manual-fingerprint-verification-securejoin-alternative-for-desktop-users/3276/4 "2024-10-02T15:38:25Z")
> [@ell1e](#): > > There’s [SecureJoin](https://securejoin.readthedocs.io/en/latest/), but that seems to be limited to mobile phones or devices with cameras […] > SecureJoin, [which] seems to be limited to QR codes. no. - [“Guaranteed End-to-End-Encryption”](https://delta.chat/en/2023-11-23-jumbo-42) (the term we use for “Secure join”) is not limited to mobile devices. “Guaranteed End-to-End-Encryption” is supported by Delta Chat Desktop as well as Delta Chat iOS and Delta Chat Android. - it is not needed that all devices have a camera. if you want to scan a QR code, you need a camera only one one device. - if you do not have a camera on any devices, you can relay the needed information via an “invite link” so, all you need is Delta Chat - in theory, other apps could add support for “Guaranteed End-to-End-Encryption” as well, however, we do not hold our breath right now 🙂 a general note to understand priorities, (repeated from [somewhere else](https://support.delta.chat/t/import-and-use-of-existing-gpg-keys/3072/6) 🙂 ) Delta Chat does not consider PGP in its classic dealing-with-keys form as a convenient-enough approach to exchange keys or to guarantee things. we do not want users to be confronted with key questions in the UI they “reach”, [Don’t ask users anything about keys, ever](https://docs.autocrypt.org/background.html#design-differences-from-previous-approaches). therefore, effort and focus is put to other parts - autocrypt, secure-join, vcards etc. - resulting in far more messages being encrypted than on most other email apps 🙂 --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.delta.chat/t/feature-suggestion-manual-fingerprint-verification-securejoin-alternative-for-desktop-users/3276)._